Stupid Kids at #freejahar

If I had to pinpoint how I approach society, it is with an eye of toleration and a narrow view of acceptance. I stay fairly quiet about certain practices and don’t offer my opinion. I may not accept them from myself or my circle, but I tolerate them in others. As long as they don’t want me to publicly accept them. Don’t shove it in my face, be respectful, and life goes on.

That all said, what Mary Churback and Lacey Buckley are doing with the whole #freejahar movement is utterly naive. I believe in presumed innocence (ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat-the burden of proof lies with who declares, not who denies) before a trial, but their actions are kicking salt in the victims’ wounds:

A group of about a dozen supporters cheered as the motorcade carrying Tsarnaev arrived at the courthouse. The demonstrators yelled “Justice for Jahar,” as Tsarnaev is known. One woman held a sign that said, “Free Jahar.”

Others held signs claiming Tsarnaev’s innocence, while suggesting elaborate conspiracies surrounding the bombing and Tsarnaev’s arrest.

“I’m here to show Dzhokhar support, to let him know there are thousands of people worldwide that do believe his innocence,” Mary Churback of Freetown told WBZ-TV news.

Lacey Buckley, 23, said she traveled from her home in Wenatchee, Wash., to attend the arraignment. Buckley said she has never met Tsarnaev but came because she believes he’s innocent. “I just think so many of his rights were violated. They almost murdered an unarmed kid in a boat,” she said.

And a student ********* ******* at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth, where Tsarnaev attended, came to the courthouse because she wanted to see the suspect. She said he used to walk her friend home in the evenings because he was worried about her being alone.

“He would walk her from the campus library to her dorm at night,” she said.

As far as the Free Jahar movement and the stupid too pretty to be guilty, did they not read what he wrote inside the boat?

Update I: I received the below comment from a distraught father concerning his daughter:

This. Is Steve gillis regarding my daughter brittney gillis , I’m in contact with attorney Anthony diffrusia regarding what your doing to my daughter , my daughter is studying law at umass Dartmouth , we were at the trials yest, first we were there to see the whitey bulger case, we didn’t even realize the Boston bomber was there, my daughter simply said he attended the same school as her, I did not know him,I heard he used to walk girls back at night from the library to make sure they got back safe,brittney went on to say she feels he’s guilty and should go to jail. What you hava done is try to make a story even at ruining someone’s life my daughter is a good girl she called me in tears crying, saying you have her as a supporter, so more than money I’d seek I’d rather just have you fix this false lie, brittney is a good person a catechism teacher speaks schools against bullying, you really messed up this kid is so so distraught

Steven, I corrected the article. You realize, of course, I am just reporting the news from multiple sites. You might want to go direct to them. I did not just pick your daughter’s name out of mid-air. Truly, I don’t doubt that your daughter is a good person. Take a breath and accept my apologies.

Update II: Ex Bootneck, as is his elegant way with words, has an excellent suggestion for Steve:

Steve Gillis, I can only presume your daughter offered the information to a reporter and then gave her name; or, was over heard by a reporter, who may then have asked a third party if they knew your daughters name, for them to subsequently release the same detail into print. Without Brittny’s permission it is obviously reporters ‘here say’ which is what 99.999% of such scribes will use to enhance their press release.

Under such circumstances of ‘he said, she said’ etc, it is always best advice that third parties do not quote any personal detail to any reporter, as they will influence the story to match their prospectus (some thing that is taught at some point to every Law student, no matter where they may study). Incidentally, I am on this side of the pond in the UK, where the same point is made constantly.
(The reporter will have kept her notebook and submitted details for reference, that you can check on if required; through a court of law)!

If I was in your position I would also be angry, but my focus would be with the reporter who obviously has used a misquote to their advantage. This should be nipped in the bud now with those from the Press as well as the Main Stream Media. Such false information could possibly have a detrimental effect on a future case that your daughter becomes involved in when she qualifies as a lawyer. As we are all too well aware, once a piece enters into the WWW, any story there after is on view for eternity.

If I may offer some free advice that comes from the heart, and not from your attorneys desk (that will cost you a fortune to hear the same)?
Go to the reporters desk in question, and ask for her line manager/editor, and ask them to rescind your daughters name and story, which will then be counter balanced for prosperity as a misquote, it has to be held on their file and their system. A hard copy, day, dated, letter can also be requested.

NavyOne, the owner of this Blog has simply quoted from CBS Boston, as well as the reporter Heather Ginsberg’s press release, of which he has genuinely retracted, and apologised for (as an act from a genuine person of high standing, who holds the values of integrity & responsibility sincerely).
Your posted comment as well as NavyOne’s reply is also testament to your feelings about your daughters misquote, which again will be held within the WWW for eternity, for all and sundry to view.

Your Lawyer will tell you that it is not against the law for a third party to quote a general release from the Main Stream Media (the Presidential Office does it every day). Even a third party newspaper can pick up the same story and run with it without fear of prosecution. I have no doubt that European tabloids will be picking up the same story and repeating it as I type this tome.

Sincerely,

Yours Aye.

Thanks mate.

Update III: Wow, the media dropped the ball. Steve was correct in that they chopped his daughter’s words to fit their needs. The unedited section, by the WHDH team:

“I would still support him because I don’t feel that he is guilty. I just don’t see anything, any evidence that points that they’re guilty. I don’t see video that they dropped the backpacks. I don’t see anything that points out that he’s guilty. I see more that he’s innocent, if anything,” said Karina Figueroa.

“I think he’s guilty for falling into his brother’s influence, but I don’t think it was in his nature to do something like that,” said Brittany Gillis, who went to school at UMass Dartmouth with Tsarnaev. She did not know him personally, but knew people who did know him.

Note that I represented Brittany Gillis by these ********* ******* in the original story. It really sounded as if she was sympathetic to the suspects when she was the opposite.

37 thoughts on “Stupid Kids at #freejahar

  1. So, what did the “moderate” islam write inside the boat. I did not even hear on the “news” that he could write.

    • Heltau
      He scrawled with a magic marker or something on the inside of the boat:
      “When you attack one Muslim, you attack all Muslims”.

      I truly believe that the cop going over the side should have ended it right there then burnt the boat to ashes.

  2. I’ve heard of these loons. Most of us real New Englanders think he should get what’s coming to him (whose name I will never mention). The debate on the radio station I listen to on the way to work is what makes him suffer the most. A long prison sentence or the death penalty? Him and his scum sucking brother murdered a friend of a friend of mine, Officer Sean Collier.

    We would like the law to go Old Testament on that SOB’s butt.

    • I thought Officer Sean Collier to be exceedingly brave, I wish your friend and his Sean’s family well. (And I agree with your biblical ideas…)

  3. A fair trial is deserved, then hang the guilty barsteward… I’ll pay for the rope and even knot it to fit.

    Aye.

  4. I actually perused that FB page and there were over 8000 likes….are these idiots that stupid??? I won’t even deign to answer such an obvious question…they’re liking an Islamic-Fascist terrorist thug along with his deceased brother who both murdered three human beings and maimed almost two hundred…stupidity and ignorance seem to be the coin of the realm…the mind boggles…and New England and much of the Northeast suffers from this sheeplike mind numbing inane attitude and behavior….will they ever wake up to what’s really happening here??……k

  5. This. Is Steve gillis regarding my daughter brittney gillis , I’m in contact with attorney Anthony diffrusia regarding what your doing to my daughter , my daughter is studying law at umass Dartmouth , we were at the trials yest, first we were there to see the whitey bulger case, we didn’t even realize the Boston bomber was there, my daughter simply said he attended the same school as her, I did not know him,I heard he used to walk girls back at night from the library to make sure they got back safe,brittney went on to say she feels he’s guilty and should go to jail. What you hava done is try to make a story even at ruining someone’s life my daughter is a good girl she called me in tears crying, saying you have her as a supporter, so more than money I’d seek I’d rather just have you fix this false lie, brittney is a good person a catechism teacher speaks schools against bullying, you really messed up this kid is so so distraught

    • Steven, I corrected the article. You realize, of course, I am just reporting the news from multiple sites. You might want to go direct to them. I did not just pick your daughter’s name out of mid-air. Truly, I don’t doubt that your daughter is a good person. Take a breath and accept my apologies.

  6. Thanks Coffeypot.
    I thought he would write more than that about what he caused to happen to all those Americans. (another act of war by “moderate” islam the, “peace and light “religion”").

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  8. Steve Gillis, I can only presume your daughter offered the information to a reporter and then gave her name; or, was over heard by a reporter, who may then have asked a third party if they knew your daughters name, for them to subsequently release the same detail into print. Without Brittny’s permission it is obviously reporters ‘here say’ which is what 99.999% of such scribes will use to enhance their press release.

    Under such circumstances of ‘he said, she said’ etc, it is always best advice that third parties do not quote any personal detail to any reporter, as they will influence the story to match their prospectus (some thing that is taught at some point to every Law student, no matter where they may study). Incidentally, I am on this side of the pond in the UK, where the same point is made constantly.
    (The reporter will have kept her notebook and submitted details for reference, that you can check on if required; through a court of law)!

    If I was in your position I would also be angry, but my focus would be with the reporter who obviously has used a misquote to their advantage. This should be nipped in the bud now with those from the Press as well as the Main Stream Media. Such false information could possibly have a detrimental effect on a future case that your daughter becomes involved in when she qualifies as a lawyer. As we are all too well aware, once a piece enters into the WWW, any story there after is on view for eternity.

    If I may offer some free advice that comes from the heart, and not from your attorneys desk (that will cost you a fortune to hear the same)?
    Go to the reporters desk in question, and ask for her line manager/editor, and ask them to rescind your daughters name and story, which will then be counter balanced for prosperity as a misquote, it has to be held on their file and their system. A hard copy, day, dated, letter can also be requested.

    NavyOne, the owner of this Blog has simply quoted from CBS Boston, as well as the reporter Heather Ginsberg’s press release, of which he has genuinely retracted, and apologised for (as an act from a genuine person of high standing, who holds the values of integrity & responsibility sincerely).
    Your posted comment as well as NavyOne’s reply is also testament to your feelings about your daughters misquote, which again will be held within the WWW for eternity, for all and sundry to view.

    Your Lawyer will tell you that it is not against the law for a third party to quote a general release from the Main Stream Media (the Presidential Office does it every day). Even a third party newspaper can pick up the same story and run with it without fear of prosecution. I have no doubt that European tabloids will be picking up the same story and repeating it as I type this tome.

    Sincerely,

    Yours Aye.

  9. Congrats NavyOne by hitting the big time in the blogosphere by getting a baseless lawsuit threat.

    Many people really don’t understand fair use, linking to other sites, slander, libel and defamation laws on the interwebs. I am pretty confident that Mr. Steve gillis’ attorney being a dog bite and auto accident ambulance chasing esquire would be equally ignorant if he sends you a cease and desist letter demanding removal of this blog post. If Steve’s attorney finds my previous statement slanderous, libel or defaming and contacts you, I give you NavyOne explicit permission to provide Steve’s attorney with my email address, IP address, yada yada whatever.

    Here are Mr. Steve gillis’ attorney’s accomplishments:
    http://www.difruscialaw.com/Verdicts-Settlements/

    I’d be more worried if Steve sicked this Anthony DiFruscia on you:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jQFjoUjIPo

    In the event that Steve’s attorney does send you a nastygram, I’d advise contacting the Popehat site: http://www.popehat.com/

    They relish in fighting back against idiotic attorneys who don’t understand the 1st amendment by coordinating pro bono representation with attorneys that do understand the 1st amendment and the interwebs.

    As a father of three daughters, I do have empathy for Steve’s concern with his daughter being skylined in the media. However, I have explained to my kids that talking to the media after a significant event without thinking your thoughts through can lead to the media misrepresenting what you are saying in a small sound bite. Heck, the main stream media is good at selectively using out of context statements even if you have a thought out response.

  10. Heltau: Good point about the religion of pieces.
    EB: Perfect, thanks. I posted this.
    Don: Great find. The lawyer seems like a second-stringer. Not like the hockey player. . .

  11. My daughter and I went to the court house for another case she wanted to sit in,was America’s most wanted Irish mob leader whitey bulger case is going on in the same federal court house while there we were told the bomber was going to be at the same court, I said britt lets go to the bomber case he’s coming in later in the afternoon at 3 o’clock , so she agreed, yes there were niave stupid ass supporters claiming our own gov did it, telling people the photos where photoshopped , they were holding posters chanting, my daughter and I were not laffiliated with the free the bomber, we know he did it we both do feel this kid was influenced by his older brother who he looked up to his brother , look here’s a kid who was doing the right things making sure gals made it home safe at night from the library, my daughter didn’t know him even though it was a small campus, but stories came up like this , the bombers wrestling team showed up for support at court the other day along with the wrestling coach, my daughter quoted in other web sites that she feels he is guilty and should go to jail. Now her name on your blog is still listed as a supporter one line through her good name it’s still clearly visible at the headline of this blog, one line through , can’t you please just take it out I can direct you to proper sights where she quotes ,”I believe he did it and should go to jail.

  12. Don– Heck, even when you THINK OUT AND WRITE UP AND EMAIL TO THE MSM JOURNALIST, they screw it up and get it wrong! Fortuitously, my personal experience was pretty minor* — it was a human interest story, and it wasn’t an article or an issue that generated wide interest, and the misquote made me look mildly ditzy, at worst. But I always cringe when the MSM get involved in interviewing anyone NOT very media savvy. They will almost INVARIABLY screw it up.

    A lot of bloggers, especially those involved with Watchers of Weasels, are MUCH better about rendering quotes more faithfully, and within the proper context. Which goes back to why many of them got involved in blogging in the first place. (Because the MSM were so… awful!)

    * It was article many years ago in the New York Post about the “Forgotten 100,” approximately 100 NYPD police officers who, over the years, had fallen in the line of duty but were not representated on any memorials. Thanks to a tireless retired NYPD sergeant, the names were added–to the memorial at 1PP, the memorial at the Police Museum, and to the one in Battery Park City. My great grandfather was among those.

    • Lee – Good to know that the NYPD fallen officers are remembered. The MSM mistakes can sometimes be funny, just seen this…

  13. Well Ty, for keeping it real! There were plenty of supporters for the bombers chanting. Free the fool , but I can assure u my daughter is not a rebel, nor is she niave to think he didn’t do the murders, ,,too too bad , to think this kid bomber was doing the right thing in school walking girls home at night to make sure they got home safe, I said britt maybe he was looking for sex, no dad the gal I know he walked home is a known lesbian, so this kid looked up to his brother so much , I still can’t see to not say to my brother “no your nuts’ why he followed his brother , he idolized yes, but still to say no, I’m not a murderer,, so this kid threw his whole life away, , like I said even his wrestling team showed up in his support ,people at the school he went to are in disbelief, but isn’t that the way the story always goes, he was a great guy, we hear that all the time about murderers.

  14. It’s not your fault NavyOne. Don’t beat yourself up over this. You have stepped up and corrected what was not your error and both you and Ex Bootneck have responded gracefully and appropriately. Dude, there’s nothing else you can do. It’s either trust what we’re reporting on or throw in the towel. Mistakes do happen but there just that; mistakes. I am proud of the way you’ve handled this and if that was my daughter I’d say the same.

    Mister Gillis:
    I am a veteran and a retired police officer. Though I’ve never met NavyOne I have conversed with him electronically and have read his posts for quite a while now. I can say, with my own reputation at stake, that he’s both an honorable man and has not a single dishonest bone in his body. I stand by him firmly. As a father I understand your anger and dismay but your fight is not here. If you ask I am quite confident NavyOne would assist you in any way he can, indeed as he has already demonstrated. Look no further than his co-blogger, Ex Bootneck, and you will see the quality of the people he surrounds himself with. I hope you will accept his apology and retraction. If I can be of assistance please feel free to contact me any time.

  15. Lee: Truly appreciate your faith in the Watcher of Weasels. As bloggers, we make mistakes, but we acknowledge them. Sorry to hear that you got misquoted.
    Don: Sum Ting Wong! Ho Lee Fuk! Heheheh!
    Steve: I think we can agree that the MSM really dropped the ball on this one. I wish you and daughter the best.
    Six: Sir, I will do my best to live up to your very kind assessment.

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