Charlie, the San Fran Terrier

Charlie is a dog who bit a police horse. And David Gizzarelli, the terrier’s owner, has to convince a judge that Charlie should not be put to sleep. I don’t blame David for being worried. He’s amassing a petition, with more than 90K in signatures, in support of Chuck.

6 thoughts on “Charlie, the San Fran Terrier

  1. A horse in the city is a wreck waiting to happen. Even the best trained horses will freak at some point. Dogs will be dogs. You’d think in SF that the liberal folk would be willing to try rehabilitation before the death sentence.

  2. San Francisco? The only mystery is why it took so long for such an event to occur…it seems to me in Liberal Land and the entire state of California is the petrie dish for this insane attitude and behavior, why they have more regard for animals than they do humans….the heights of the ridiculous carried to the absurd….k

  3. I strongly believe in animal welfare, I have often (quite often) gone out of my way to assist others through offering guidance in purchasing the correct canine for their environment, as well as training advice. Several times I have driven long distances to assist in the rescue, re-training and re-homing of a variety of dogs. I will continue to do so.

    All through my life I have always had a Staffordshire Bull Terrier as a canine friend and true companion. At the end of the day, the same friend is regarded as a domesticated canine, no matter how well disciplined he/she is; the capability exists for the real wolf to appear just for that split second, which is all it takes for physical irreparable damage to occur.

    I bear the scars on my hands and fingers from separating two ‘SBT’s who were locked in mortal combat; the ‘owners’ of which lacked the brain cells required for existence in the human race.
    (I also have four blown knuckles through using the ‘necessary force required to restrain them both’ when they attempted to attack me for interfering)? Their dogs were legally seized and re-homed through a private charitable organisation.

    The training and discipline of my SBT’s is my responsibility, my failure to conduct such continuation training reflects upon me, and no one else. I have never taken their domestication for granted; due to the effort and time I put in I know I can trust them as a friend and companion, even under the most arduous and testing conditions (even around children holding chocolate bars; of which I am not to be trusted)!

    As the adage goes, it is never the dog’s fault; it is the owners, either by default or through ignorance.

    Now please give me a few seconds to unplug my ‘emotion’ cable.
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    DONE…
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    Now allow me to play devils advocate.

    Regardless of whether the police horse and rider were inside the unleashed area, or whether the dog ignored its ‘owners’ commands for the first time, etc, etc.

    It matters not one jot!

    It is known that the dog flew at the rider and horse and attacked them both, and then pursued the horse back to its stables, attacking several times further until a police motorbike rider intervened and stopped the attack.
    (That equates to one ton of equine beast charging at fright/flight speed, which in itself offers a potentially lethal situation to the general public as well as to the beast).

    The written MSM report states that ‘Charlie’ is an ‘American Staffordshire Terrier’, yet the reporter stated that ‘Charlie’ is a Pit-bull ‘type’. They are not the same dog! Far from it, though they do share some general characteristics.

    The American Staffordshire Terier originated from UK/European Staffordshire Bull Terrier stock from which (after years of selective breeding) the breed pedigree standard in the US was set.
    The ‘Mayfield’ Pit-bull originated through cross breeding with the SBT (known back then as the ‘Bull & Terrier’) and *Native American Indian canine stock.

    *Native American Indian Song Dog (domesticated wolf) the qualities of which are second to none (the blue eyes of the AISD have transferred into some Pit-Bull breeds).
    http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=native%20american%20indian%20song%20dogs&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CE4QFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.puppyfind.com%2Fnative%2Bamerican%2Bindian%2Bdog.php&ei=dFbCULeZIYXO0QXfpoGIDw&usg=AFQjCNF1UdFk2R7yKfxOjXgdArT-88IYUg

    Having viewed ‘Charlie’ from afar (pictures as well as a video clip); I would say that he may well be an AST, certainly his ears are forming correctly, his ‘flews’ and muzzle appear to be correct as would be expected of the AST standard. His eye and stock colouring also appear to be correct. But without sighting him in the flesh it is hard to gauge positively.
    (My 55 years experience and ownership of SBT’s, puts my £/$ on him being an AST and not a Pit-bull).

    ‘Charlie’ is in the doghouse on death row, for him to survive there are certain conditions and criteria that would have to well thought-out.

    1. ‘Charlie’ under goes analysis, and extended training (which he will require after the trauma of being kennelled).

    2. The ‘owner’ undergoes extended training with ‘Charlie’; he will require this, as his own confidence will have taken a traumatic hit.

    3. Three Veterinary registered ‘canine behaviourists’ should analyse ‘Charlie’ separately.

    3. The results should be provided to the courts as well as the legal teams (not leaked to the press for emotional gain).

    4. As a concession to freedom ‘Charlie’ may be required to be muzzled at all times whilst out doors!

    Further consideration is that the ‘owner’ has a responsibility to the Police officer as well as the injured horse of which payments must be met.
    (The veterinary bills will be expensive as they will be ongoing for some months. There is a possibility that the horse is unable to continue in its present role due to the attack, which again can lead to further replacement costs)

    The compensation to the Police Officer could also be considerable.
    (It is hoped that the owner has third party pet insurance that covers such damage)!

    Emotion cable plugged in again…

    My Father trained and disciplined our own dogs without breaking their strength of character; after all who would wish to see a dog cowering through a given command.

    As an 18-month-old baby I once made the mistake of walking behind ‘Gyp’ (Gypsy) who was eating from his bowl, apparently I laid my hand on his shoulder to stroke him; that split second resulted in eight stitches and a one & a half inch scar under my left eye that remains their to this day. ‘Gyp’ realised what he had done and left his food bowl to lie on his bed. My Father witnessed it happening, and grabbed me for the dash to hospital. (My Father was to blame and took the lesson and the memory to his grave).

    Many years later (I was 12) we lost “Gyp’ through old age. I asked my Father if he got angry with ‘Gyp’ after he bit me, he shook his head and said no (though he spent countless hours teaching him to take food from ‘my’ hand). That was the measure of the man.

    I hope ‘Charlie’ comes through this;

    I hope ‘Stoney’ the horse as well as Officer Eric Evans make a full recovery.

    I also hope that David Gizzarelli learns a valuable life lesson and that his pet insurance has a bottomless pit!

    Its almost Christmas, I truly hope for a miracle…

    Yours Aye.

    • I would hope Charlie survives this, because I love dogs as well but Ex Bootneck, we’re talking about California; they engage in a different reality there…or should I emphasize fantasy….and I love canines and felines (and that includes all of them…we’ve had many shelter dogs over the years) as much as the next person, maybe more…perhaps not to the degree you do because I sense you are more perceptive to the needs of the dogs you have spent your life with (the SBTs)..you have to understand what the situation is in the State of California….for a moment, I don’t think Charlie really has much of a chance to be honest or realistic…and I’m trying to be objective and it becomes painfully so…I know exactly what you mean when you speak of any dog being not too distant from his wolfish inclinations and ancestral roots…that exists as well in the my mini-dachshunds….those same characteristics as small as they are are retained in their ferocious defense of me and our home….the fact that they howl like the wolf whose genes they possess is clear in that brief moment….that it comes from such a small little body doesn’t matter in the slightest and allow me to tell you they may only weight 10 to 12 pounds but they scare the living daylights out of little children who don’t understand how completely charming they really are…the problem with our lovely pets are they have very little exposure to other people so they aren’t terribly friendly to strangers…in this manner however, they are very protective and good guard dogs…so they serve a useful purpose and we take advantage of their vociferous barking nature in this regard….k

  4. Kris: San Fran is like another country. It is even crazier when you are there.
    EB: It is very true that a dog can flick to a wolf rather easily. Like what happened to you when you were a tyke. And RGR on your hopes for Charlie. I wish him the best too. . .

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